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Dozey
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Can anyone tell me if the waterpump on a 1993 2.3 10v Audi Coupe NG act as the tensioner or is there a separate tensioner?

Blinking GSF are no help!!!

Want to change the cambelt but don't want to buy something I don't need Wink
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

According to vagcat.com (free to join) there is a tensioner/damper on that

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belt tensioning damper

If you give GSF the Audi number, they should be able to X-ref it.

You may want to pull the top cover off, if it's easy, and have a quick check.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:24 am Reply with quote Back to top

As Mike_H says, there is a tensioner on the NG.

Helped a friend change his.

You'll possibly need a timing light after the change.

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Dozey
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:18 am Reply with quote Back to top

thanks guys Wink
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I thought there was a 'fixed' cambelt pulley (i.e. not adjustable) and the waterpump had elongated holes to allow for tensioning the belt?

Stripped an NG down a few weeks back...
 
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Dozey
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

NOw Brain thats what I thought but just been to Audi and got a diagram and they said I needed a tension damper grrrr £184.50...trying to see if I can source a cheaper one now
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Is there anything actually wrong with the existing one, or were you just changing it as a precaution? Sounds like a risk worth taking at that price Very Happy
 
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Dozey
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

LOL...my partner is a mechanic, and he does everything just so!! Audi advise to change it because of the age and 102,000 ob the clock!! blinking nightmare!!! I have no idea if there is anything wronf witht he existing one as haven't taken it apart yet!!!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Interesting though as the haynes manual doesn't show one in the technical drawing
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

had a look on manual and it says there is a tensioner and to use that as to tension belt, the audi manual say says turn hex to 25nm then tighten bolts to 10 nm, guessing this is nut in the middle of the pic with arrow? it says this

‒ → Tension toothed belt; to do so, apply 25 Nm at hexagon and turn tensioner clockwise, hold in position and tighten bolts -arrows- to 10 Nm.
‒ Give crankshaft two turns in direction of engine rotation and check whether camshaft and crankshaft marks coincide with their reference points.
‒ Check tension of toothed belt using VW 210.
‒ Scale reading: 14 ... 14.5
‒ Correct setting if necessary.



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

replacement water pump is about £30 so would be discounted if your partner is a machanic

you might as well change it while its all apart and dont cut corners with the tentioner as its no worth the grief if it fails
 
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Dozey
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

OK so I got the waterpump, idle pulley, cambelt and tensioner damper..which was £184 from Audi!!! £16.50 from Nyanza!!!
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I hope it lasts. Sometimes you get what you pay for.

I'd probably prefer to fit genuine parts or not replace it at all

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i defo agree with mike!!!!

id much rather pay extra from a local motor factors and avoid ebay like the plague

wouldnt touch anything made in the far east Laughing
 
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Dozey
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:02 am Reply with quote Back to top

yeh this came from a local motor factors!! and it is an INA part which which was cross referenced by GSF!!! There is no way that I could afford a genuine part at this time and it needs doing!! If need be I'll go for a genuine part at a later date!! I thought it was a mistake with pricing because I could get the same part made by the same company from another factors for £70
 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

INA parts are as good as OEM, you have nothing to worry about. I always laugh when people give it the "genuine or nothing at all" line. If the genuine parts were that good, you wouldn't be having to replace them. Water pumps, coolant temp sensors, belt hydraulic tensioners (piston type), MAF meters etc to name a few.

Some ebay parts are very poor, anything you get from a reputable motorfactor will be fine. They're not going to stake their reputation on supplying garbage.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:02 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ina parts are OEM for a lot of manufacturers, including some VAG stuff.

There's plenty of tat out there sold by motor factors too. I avoid Quinton Hazell, PowerTrain and others like the plague.
 
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