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CCTV footage of the robbers has now been released, I can't see it's going to help much though as they are wearing masks. Article here . I also noticed it made national news yesterday. I really hope they find them, I feel really sorry for the family of the guy who died because of them.
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I thought they had been caught - I'm sure I read that three guys had been arrested????
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I thought they had been caught - I'm sure I read that three guys had been arrested????
It says that 2 have been released on bail, I think I read that the third one has as well now but I can't remember where I saw that.
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I thought I'd drag this back up as the gang were sentenced yesterday, here is a link to the story. Anyone in the Bristol area might have seen it on the local news last night inclding CCTV footage showing the car.
It's good to see that they have all got decent length sentences. It also hopefully means that the Police will be releasing the car soon, as it has been sitting in a pound for many months now incase the defence required to see it as evidence.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:24 pm
I seen the news the other day so it looks like they got there just rewards
Has your friend now got his car back ? No damage I hope !
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It also hopefully means that the Police will be releasing the car soon, as it has been sitting in a pound for many months now incase the defence required to see it as evidence.
ooops look before you post chris
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Don't they look like a proper bunch of inbred c u n ts?! I wonder if most people in prison look as f u c k ugly as that.
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hopefully it was only used for the journey home and not the parts ... Hope you get it back soon *fingers crossed*
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I have seen it since forensics finished with it, it looked undamaged as far as I could see besides the locks. They have removed all the locking wheel bolts (I had left the key in the cubby hole in the boot, I'm surprised they found it). They must have used it in the robbery with 3 bolts on each wheel, I really can't understand why they did that. The exhaust has become seperated after the centre box, but that's an easy fix. Also they have removed the quattro badge from the boot and the Audi badge from one of the wings, again I have no idea why they would do that.
This is how it looked when I went to see it, the dust is from the forensics.
I really hope to be able to get it back soon.
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Not too bad, under the filth - a good service and valet should see that looking fine again.
Sorry for all your trouble, not to mention the poor guy who died during the robbery
As a matter of interest, what's the story with insurance? - while the car was recovered before the insurance co. declared it lost, you were still deprived of the use of it for over a year - is there any compensation possible for your expenses? (procuring a replacement car in the meantime, etc)
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My friend told the insurance company it had been stolen and then that it had been recovered. Initially they wanted to know where it was being kept so they could assess it but he was told a car of that age would almost certainly be written off even if it was just the 2 locks it needed. Neither of us wanted it written off so didn't really want to claim. The insurance policy was suspended when it was stolen and they did phone quite often to ask what was happening. In the end I was told that the policy would have to be canceled but they did pay £100 towards repairing the car which will not be recorded or affect my friend's NCB. They also refunded some of the premium as despite the policy running for 11 of the 12 months, it had been suspended for most of that time.
As far as I know my friend has not been offered any compensation for the time the Police have kept the car, I'm not really sure if they are obliged to offer any.
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My friend told the insurance company it had been stolen and then that it had been recovered. Initially they wanted to know where it was being kept so they could assess it but he was told a car of that age would almost certainly be written off even if it was just the 2 locks it needed. Neither of us wanted it written off so didn't really want to claim. The insurance policy was suspended when it was stolen and they did phone quite often to ask what was happening. In the end I was told that the policy would have to be canceled but they did pay £100 towards repairing the car which will not be recorded or affect my friend's NCB. They also refunded some of the premium as despite the policy running for 11 of the 12 months, it had been suspended for most of that time.
As far as I know my friend has not been offered any compensation for the time the Police have kept the car, I'm not really sure if they are obliged to offer any.
Not too bad on the part of the insurance company, given how they can sometimes shaft people by attempting to write off old, but very viable, cars, and then offering the owners the lowest amount possible, hoping they will settle without realising.
I don't suppose the Police have obligations to compensate people, otherwise it would get very expensive (ultimately for taxpayers).
Overall, it could have been a lot worse for your friend.
Suggestion: post pics of the car when it's all cleaned up and ready for the road once more?
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Project 'Dusty' looks like a quick fix then to restore it back to its former glory !
Good news
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It's back! I've put a new lock barrel in so it's secure but there is some damage to the plate around the handle as well as some damage to the door where they have tried to lever the plate off. I'm going to fill the damage to the door as soon as I get a chance and I think a new lock plate will be my best option. The Ignition barrel is very well smashed so I'll have to replace the steering wheel lock part.
I have managed to put the ignition on and all seems fine, I haven't managed to start it as I can't see how to turn the ignition far enough with a screwdriver!
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Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:39 pm
It is great to see you have the car back, hope you get her back on the road soon without too much hassle and cost
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Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:18 pm
be nice to have a reliable motor after the tvr lol glad you got it back m8
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Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:31 pm
thrilled you got it back pal, but as always theese scumbags never get the punishment they deserve.
Same as some benifits claimant the other wwek in the shop she said she wanted to get a job cos she was only getting £250 a week off of benefits. I dont even get that for a weeks wage, I have to work and do work 2 jobs for that about 60 hours per week.
Totally crap when you work so hard for things you want to let some scrote get away with whatever they want. Oh they have a drug problem, oh they have family and money problems, oh they have a drink problem.
bring back coperal punishment, chop a finger end off etc I say. Okay thef twice another finger end gone, again i hear you say another. Its is your choice that way isnt it.. Cant complaiont about drugs etc, its thier choice if they take them in the first place no-one makes you.
anyhow.....
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Glad you got the car back. This is a tragic story, considering the death of the night manager. Those plug-ugly pikeys will probably only complete half their sentences and are locked up with other career criminals discussing what they will do next on the outside. 8 years needs to be 8 years, not 4 years with good behaviour. If as a country we're daft enough to strip brand-new Nimrods that haven't even flown, then we can surely lock up this type of no-mark. Rehabilitation... just look at them, it's in-bred, they'd steal anything not nailed down. Rant over!
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Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:03 am
Type17 wrote:
A80QAAH wrote:
My friend told the insurance company it had been stolen and then that it had been recovered. Initially they wanted to know where it was being kept so they could assess it but he was told a car of that age would almost certainly be written off even if it was just the 2 locks it needed. Neither of us wanted it written off so didn't really want to claim. The insurance policy was suspended when it was stolen and they did phone quite often to ask what was happening. In the end I was told that the policy would have to be canceled but they did pay £100 towards repairing the car which will not be recorded or affect my friend's NCB. They also refunded some of the premium as despite the policy running for 11 of the 12 months, it had been suspended for most of that time.
As far as I know my friend has not been offered any compensation for the time the Police have kept the car, I'm not really sure if they are obliged to offer any.
Not too bad on the part of the insurance company, given how they can sometimes shaft people by attempting to write off old, but very viable, cars, and then offering the owners the lowest amount possible, hoping they will settle without realising.
I don't suppose the Police have obligations to compensate people, otherwise it would get very expensive (ultimately for taxpayers).
Overall, it could have been a lot worse for your friend.
Suggestion: post pics of the car when it's all cleaned up and ready for the road once more?
On the above point re compensation. It is not the police who are obliged to compensate your friend A80QAAH, but he will almost certainly be entitled to something from the Victim Support Fund as a victim of crime.
To have your car stolen, used in a serious crime involving a murder, be deprived of it for four months and get it back in a state like that more than qualifies you for financial compensation; particularly in the light of no insurance claim.
Get back on to the police and request a claim from this fund. I think they start the ball rolling because they have the crime report.
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iolaire wrote:
Type17 wrote:
A80QAAH wrote:
My friend told the insurance company it had been stolen and then that it had been recovered. Initially they wanted to know where it was being kept so they could assess it but he was told a car of that age would almost certainly be written off even if it was just the 2 locks it needed. Neither of us wanted it written off so didn't really want to claim. The insurance policy was suspended when it was stolen and they did phone quite often to ask what was happening. In the end I was told that the policy would have to be canceled but they did pay £100 towards repairing the car which will not be recorded or affect my friend's NCB. They also refunded some of the premium as despite the policy running for 11 of the 12 months, it had been suspended for most of that time.
As far as I know my friend has not been offered any compensation for the time the Police have kept the car, I'm not really sure if they are obliged to offer any.
Not too bad on the part of the insurance company, given how they can sometimes shaft people by attempting to write off old, but very viable, cars, and then offering the owners the lowest amount possible, hoping they will settle without realising.
I don't suppose the Police have obligations to compensate people, otherwise it would get very expensive (ultimately for taxpayers).
Overall, it could have been a lot worse for your friend.
Suggestion: post pics of the car when it's all cleaned up and ready for the road once more?
On the above point re compensation. It is not the police who are obliged to compensate your friend A80QAAH, but he will almost certainly be entitled to something from the Victim Support Fund as a victim of crime.
To have your car stolen, used in a serious crime involving a murder, be deprived of it for four months and get it back in a state like that more than qualifies you for financial compensation; particularly in the light of no insurance claim.
Get back on to the police and request a claim from this fund. I think they start the ball rolling because they have the crime report.
Unless things have changed (& they may have), a victim was only entitled to Crim Injuries Compensation Scheme for personal injury, not financial loss - and this loss was insured, after all...
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Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:01 pm
MikeO wrote:
iolaire wrote:
Type17 wrote:
A80QAAH wrote:
My friend told the insurance company it had been stolen and then that it had been recovered. Initially they wanted to know where it was being kept so they could assess it but he was told a car of that age would almost certainly be written off even if it was just the 2 locks it needed. Neither of us wanted it written off so didn't really want to claim. The insurance policy was suspended when it was stolen and they did phone quite often to ask what was happening. In the end I was told that the policy would have to be canceled but they did pay £100 towards repairing the car which will not be recorded or affect my friend's NCB. They also refunded some of the premium as despite the policy running for 11 of the 12 months, it had been suspended for most of that time.
As far as I know my friend has not been offered any compensation for the time the Police have kept the car, I'm not really sure if they are obliged to offer any.
Not too bad on the part of the insurance company, given how they can sometimes shaft people by attempting to write off old, but very viable, cars, and then offering the owners the lowest amount possible, hoping they will settle without realising.
I don't suppose the Police have obligations to compensate people, otherwise it would get very expensive (ultimately for taxpayers).
Overall, it could have been a lot worse for your friend.
Suggestion: post pics of the car when it's all cleaned up and ready for the road once more?
On the above point re compensation. It is not the police who are obliged to compensate your friend A80QAAH, but he will almost certainly be entitled to something from the Victim Support Fund as a victim of crime.
To have your car stolen, used in a serious crime involving a murder, be deprived of it for four months and get it back in a state like that more than qualifies you for financial compensation; particularly in the light of no insurance claim.
Get back on to the police and request a claim from this fund. I think they start the ball rolling because they have the crime report.
Unless things have changed (& they may have), a victim was only entitled to Crim Injuries Compensation Scheme for personal injury, not financial loss - and this loss was insured, after all...
Mike
No Mike, the Criminal Injuries Compensation scheme is an entirely different thing and, as you say, only relates to actual physical or mental harm due to crime.
The Victim Support Fund was set up legally in 2005 to compensate victims of crime for loss through the criminal activities of others. In England and Wales if you are taken to court even for a motor offence and either plead guilty or are found guilty at trial, a sum of £15 is added to your fine that goes towards the Victim Support Fund.
In this case the insurance company, quite wrongly I think, have washed their hands of this case and this further reinforces the need or legitimacy for a claim under the fund.
It is certainly worth a shot.
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Thanks for the input. It is interesting that almost everyone I speak to about the car asks what compensation has been offered as it was kept for so long. If I'm honest, if it hadn't been for so many people saying it, I would never have even considered seeking compensation. I was just very pleased to get the car back again and wanted to help the Police as much as possible. I reserve a special kind of immense hatred for criminals like these and if it is necessary for the Police to keep the car for over a year to ensure they can provide a water tight prosecution, then I am more than satisfied that is reason enough for me to be slightly inconvenienced. It was, of course, my friend's car and he might feel different so it would be completely up to him if he actually wanted to try and claim compensation.
If anyone was wondering why the car was kept for so long, it was because any evidence from the case should be available to the defence if possible. Because all the convictions were made from evidence found in or on the car, it was an important piece of evidence. Also, for anyone wondering why I have made a substantial amount of effort to get this car back, and I'm now spending a lot of time repairing it when I don't own it. Well, a lot of it is down to the fact that my friend has been teaching overseas since a few months after it was stolen so he is not really in a position to deal with it. I also spent so much time and money on this car when I owned it that I still have quite a close attachment to it.
iolaire - I am surprised you think the insurance company "washed their hands of this case". I think we got a very reasonable result. They were very persistent at trying to get hold of the car to asses it at first, I was not happy about this as I really thought if that happened we would never see the car again. They explained that a car of this age would be recorded a total loss even if the damage was minor (not something I agree with). It was mainly my choice that a claim was not made (my friend had told the insurance company to let me deal with it once he went away) I cancelled the policy, got £100 towards repairing the car and about half of the premium was refunded. So far I've spent £30 on a complete lock set, £15 on a pair of number plates and £36.99 on some new locking wheel bolts. It's not quite back to how it was, but it really isn't far off now. I'm happy with how it has worked out considering the undesirable situation we were put in.
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As requested:
There is quite a lot of damage to the bodywork from it being broken into but mainly from storage, nothing too major but at least half the panels have been damaged in some way. I'm considering what I should do to get it to look a bit more presentable at the moment.
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