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Fast28
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:26 am |
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istoo wrote: | gavs20v wrote: | You can use focus rs discs with the porker calipers owen, they're 4x108 and the right thickness. |
is that a straight swap do you know gav? I have heard this a few times but not heard from anyone who has actually done it! |
I've got all the parts waiting to bolt on...Focus RS discs 324mm diameter/28mm thick and using some Brembo 4 pot calipers from a BMW 740i of all things! The best thing is the BMW calipers also use 324mm discs. I got a friend at work to machine some brackets from bright mild steel. I've trial fitted them and everything looks good, brake lines were sorted in the way of rear Cq Goodridge braided lines. The only thing using the RS discs is that I need 20mm spacers so that my wheels clear the calipers. Using Porsche calipers you would have to have custom brackets also as the offset of the Focus discs is not the same as the A8 discs commonly used in the conversion, there's a 6.3mm difference |
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istoo
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:24 am |
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oh you star, can i see what the brackets look like? All things possible now! |
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audioc
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:29 am |
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istoo wrote: | oh you star, can i see what the brackets look like? All things possible now! |
@ ISTOO: are they going to be necessary? Similar brake set up on the S2 running 230+ bhp; 20v is likely to be pushing 200bhp; and upgrade on pads will probably suffice for "normal" driving - even spirited...
You could spend as much on brake upgrades as it cost for the car |
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dangerousd1
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:10 am |
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The EBC green stuff pads are good enough for my coupe. |
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Fast28
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:40 am |
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audioc wrote: | istoo wrote: | oh you star, can i see what the brackets look like? All things possible now! |
@ ISTOO: are they going to be necessary? Similar brake set up on the S2 running 230+ bhp; 20v is likely to be pushing 200bhp; and upgrade on pads will probably suffice for "normal" driving - even spirited...
You could spend as much on brake upgrades as it cost for the car |
I wouldn't really bother with a brake upgrade unless you plan to use the car on a track or the power/weight of a car has dramatically altered. Trouble with the Girling G60s is that they are great heavy blocks of cast iron that once they get hot they hold the heat (you know the old Victorian cast iron radiators - same principle).
@ ISTOO, I will put up a separate post about the brakes, got my 20mm spacers adapted to fit my wheels today so I can take a few photos of the parts this week. |
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cq20v
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:52 pm |
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Cheers Gav
I'll look up the disc dimensions tonight on the Brembo site |
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cq20v
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:57 pm |
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Focus RS CQQ20V V6
Diameter 324mm 276mm 280mm
Thickness 28mm 25mm 22mm
Height 52.7mm 56.2mm 56.2mm
Centre 63.6mm 68mm 68mm |
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Mikes2
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:01 pm |
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As said, the brakes on the 90q 20v are more than adequate.
Even track work at the Nurburgring didn't stress them too much.
Decent fluid and grooved discs were the only change |
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cq20v
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:26 pm |
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That's another alternative - Those Tarox discs I got off you were good.
I just liked the feel of the Porsche 4 pots!
Lost my favourite brake fluid now too that LSUK has closed |
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Gompa
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:27 pm |
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i did mallory park track in my s2 with brembo brakes and ebc green stuff pads and they were ok not brilliant but it was a hot day and it was track work so i reckon owen could easily get away with them.
on another note what about an audi tt setup? ive heard of them sure there around the 300 mark but no 4 pot calipers so i would imagine its a lot cheaper upgrade. |
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cq20v
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:17 am |
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The G60's with Pagid fast road pads and Lucas DOT 5.1 were Ok on the CQ20V, even on track. It's just a personal thing and I liked the firm pedal when I had the 4 pots on the S2 - very reassuring.
As with most things, will see how it goes. |
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bikerjim
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Bit of shameless advertising but is this any good to you owen? - LINK
Nice project by the way, looking forward to seeing it develop.
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cq20v
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Cheers Jim, that does look nice. However, I already have one sorted.
Thanks anyway |
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bikerjim
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No worries, thanks for your reply |
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Andy10v
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If you want to use the porshe callipers you could re drill a set of 314 a8 discs and use a set of carriers to match (£110 for the carriers) or do you want a bolt on disc with no machining each time? Other thing would be how much space is there inside the 16" competition wheels as the porsche/314 setup clears the 16" avus wheels but not the earlier 3b 16s.
I found the g60s good in general, however if you drove like a loony you could wipe them out very quickly and would have to wait a bit for them to cool again, however that is not normal road driving. |
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cq20v
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Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:50 pm |
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I had 993 calipers on the S2 with Avus and they were OK. Good point about the competition wheels though, as you say, may not give enough clearance.
I don't want to redrill discs as would be worried about weakening them. I will most likely use G60's but may look for grooved discs with some better pads. Will need to find a replacement for Lucas DOT 5.1 though. |
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cq20v
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Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:06 pm |
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Update:
Insurance is all sorted now with Sky (Cheers Hibby) and the car's been SORN'd (MOT and Tax out end of Feb).
However, spoke to Nog this week and things are progressing. Have not asked for a time for completion as I don't want one - it will be done when it's done and will be well worth any wait!
If anyone would like to donate some kleenex then I would be grateful coz I think I'll need it when I get this baby! |
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[quote="cq20v"]Update:
If anyone would like to donate some kleenex then I would be grateful coz I think I'll need it when I get this baby! [/quote]
you got a runny nose then Owen lol |
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cq20v
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LOL - Just got rid of one funnily enough!
Spoke to Nog last week so all being well work will now have started. However, not asked for a deadline as I know how busy Nog and Megsy are so it will be done when it's done.
Still, hard not to get excited about have quattro and 5 pot tunes again! |
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Update on this - the work is complete (with a few extras) and the car is MOT'd and taxed. Will be collecting this weekend.
Not been this excited about a car in ages.
Thanks hugely to Nogin , Megsy and Al, it's mechanically sorted.
Massive thanks to to Dylan (engine etc.) and Al (V6) for helping with the sale.
Happy Daze are nearly here! |
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Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:34 pm |
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Good result Owen
I look forward to the weekends updates! |
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Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:32 am |
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Wahay!
Looking forward to pics, soundtrack etc. |
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Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:52 pm |
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Me too. Looking forward to seeing her finished (although we know they are never finished, always something to tinker with ) |
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monkeyboyuk
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you'll be like a big kid wi a new toy owen just remember and not get carried away on the way home and wrap it! |
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cq20v
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Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:04 pm |
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Wise words indeed Chris - I will have to remember that it will have significantly more grunt than Project Titan.
Guess I'll just have to drive it more till I get used to it |
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What a day - Up at 5:30 and away with my wife kindly driving me down to collect my new steed.
Greeted by Nog who went over the car showing me what had been done - I was pretty much speechless by this point
Sue then arrived and made some of her excellent stew - Thank you - that really is top notch that!
Bez and Megsy then arrived and what was a two hour visit turned to about 5 hrs
A quick blast to the fuel station with Nog at the wheel and the goosebumps haven't gone down yet.
Return to Nogsport for a quick brew then we headed back - 270 absolutely enjoyable miles. Car did 230 miles to half a tank too which I was impressed with.
Took a few pics and a bit of video footage (more for the sound) but they will have to wait till tomorrow as knackered now.
I cannot thank Eric, Chris and Allan enough - it's a first class job and only those in the know would tell it wasn't OEM.
Happy Daze are here for sure!! |
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Sun May 02, 2010 9:40 pm |
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All sounding good - so don't leave it too long before we see the pics and hear the five-pot soundtrack
Nice one Owen - and to the team that did the transplant. Bring it on! |
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monkeyboyuk
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Woohoo nice one Owen, can't wait to see what the lads have done! |
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cq20v
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Well, essentially it has gone from this
to this
What is also so pleasing is the additional work that the boys had to do such as
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cq20v
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Mon May 03, 2010 12:55 pm |
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Why go to all this effort?
Well, for this sound track!
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